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Too Cautious!

I was hunting in the New Bear Caves so I could pay my expenses with Daithmoth sent me a thinkto and asked if I could open the path to the Valley. I told him that I could but that other people certainly could as well. He told me that he wanted to see me in action so I agreed to head down. I haven't been with a group outside of the SDC so I thought it would be interesting to meet new people. It was a small team consisting just of Daimoth, Raen, Megami, Degu, and myself. We entered and it was pretty clear. There were some Valley Panthers and Young Sasquatches but pretty clear overall.

I knew I shouldn't have gone when Raen needed to use his bloodblade to hit the Valley Panther and naturally he fell because he couldn't brick it. Bloodblading should only be used in rare circumstances and needing the Atkus because you can't hit Valley Panthers in the Valley is pathetic. Valley Panthers are common in the Valley and they hit hard and they swing often so being on red there without the ability to brick anything is a recipe for disaster. I have only been recently able to hit them after raising my Atkus to 300 and I am unable to brick them reliably as of yet so I was relying on Megami as the person I dumped them on when I ran out of balance and couldn't swing. Seriously, not having enough Atkus for the majority of beasts in an area and needing to rely on the Bloodblade is stupid and foolish. Well, it turns out that Daimoth and Raen and Megami like to live dangerously.

In the second snell both Daimoth and Raen fell because they were bloodblading Valley Panthers so I chained them both and went to the previous safe cave where this little interchange took place.

Daimoth ponders, "A fine line between unnecessary risk and over-cautious."
(Daimoth bows his head at Jeanne.)
Jeanne asks, "You're saying I'm being unnecesarily cautious?"
Daimoth thinks to you, "My thanks, sister. I do admire your tactics."
Daimoth says, "No."
Megami exclaims, "I dunno if he was say'in that, but I was 'bout to!"
Daimoth says, "Just, cautious."
Jeanne says, "Ah yes, I'm cautious because I don't take unnecessary risks."
Megami ponders, "Damn cowards."
You think to Degu, Megami, Raen and Daimoth, "I'll only be going one pass if you find my tactics so distasteful."
Daimoth says, "Don't be sensitive. Megami's just an angry copper-whore"

I'm sick and tired of being insulted and called a bad fighter because I try to not do stupid things to get the party killed or because I would rather retreat to heal up then continue to fight on red or because I think going out on solo chain runs is usually stupid. Oh yes, people always remember the person who risked big and managed to come out on top and give them accolades but the person who suggested caution and to not run ahead into unknown territory is insulted and derided.

So I said "I'm leaving now. I trust you have an idea of what my fighting tactics are now Daimoth and since I am unwilling to take unnecessary risks I'm sure you find me wanting." I left the exit cave which was also pretty empty and Daimoth told me that he couldn't see why I was mad at him for something so innocent to which I replied "Ah yes, innocent, be sure to keep that in mind when someone berates you when you chain the only remaining fighters to a safe location so the team doesn't fall." I then gave him bad karma and logged off.

I don't like just leaving a group like that and I don't like giving bad karma but this started with Sor and it continues to this day of me suggesting that people stick together and coordinate and communicate and not do rash things and I get ignored or told that it's good to take risks and that I'm being too cautious. Sure, sometimes it works out for the best but often it doesn't and if the group was just a bit more cautious and thinking about what they are doing then everything would have turned out for the better. They'd rather have the thrill of living on the edge then deciding the best way to go about achieving a goal. They'd rather have a healer run out to chain a whole bunch of fallens then to go out as a group and get the fallens together.

This is why I'll never lead any group to any location for any reason. This incident is just the straw that broke the camel's back. Firstly, people wouldn't listen to me because for the above reasons and because I try to be realistic about what I can and can't do unlike other fighters who act as if they can brick everything and tag everything. Plus, I'm sure that me leaving like that even though I gave warning and the bad karma I gave to Daimoth doesn't do much to raise me in the esteem of other people, not that I regret either leaving or the bad karma. Gah, it's just at times like this I wonder why I bother leaving the library aside from earning money to pay for library fees and other expenses. It seems I'm incompatible with everyone else in the entire Lok'Groton island chain and I'm tired of trying to justify my point of view. The more I try the more I seem to be misunderstood and the more I alienate people and the more stressed I get. Lister himself told me he doesn't pay any attention to me because he says I only criticize as if suggesting that people stick together is criticizing. How many other people are doing the same thing but won't tell me? If people want to do stupid stuff I'm not going to try and stop them or give them advice and I am certainly not going to get involved. Kahlon himself tried to get the SDC to communicate at the last meeting and what did it get him? Everyone still fell and no one decided on a plan before doing whatever they wanted and Kahlon got stressed out because no one was listening to him. Whatever, screw it, I'm going to be the one watching people run around like chickens with their heads cut off and if things go from bad to worse I'm going to be the one heading back to town. If people are going to deride my cautiousness then I'll be thinking for myself first.
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Jeanne, not everyone in Puddleby is foolhardy. Some of us are, like you, cautious, and evaluate risk before jumping straight in. Some of us also like to co-ordinate, plan, and not just leap in blindly. Come hunt with OH hands sometime, I think you will enjoy our style of hunting. :)
Sure, if you'll have me. When do you usually meet?
We meet at 6pm CET (Central European Time) every other Saturday. Unfortunately, you just missed one, so the next one is 31st July. We meet in the monastery, and anyone is welcome (that's why we are called Open Hands *grins*). My OH character is Terise duMiroir. Look for me anytime for a hunt, a chat, or a rant (I'm a very good listener)

Jeanne, Ive just realised that our next hunt is a joint one with ELF, so it probably wont be a typical OH type hunt. However there are also hunts organised by Paranoidus and Clawstrophobios on Mondays at 9pm - 11pm EDT. I have mentioned to the clan that you are interested in our hunting methods, and they will be glad to welcome you on any of our hunts. You can find details at: http://openhands.puddleby.info/. Hope to see you soon.
Oh wait, that's 9 a.m. Pacific and I have the SDC meeting at 10 a.m. Pacific. So I won't be able to make those but I'll go to the Para-Claws Hunt if that's okay.
Thank you for the kind invitation and I'll certainly take you up on the offer.
"A fine line between unnecessary risk and over-cautious."

LOL! That's a very funny statement. Because, the line between "unnecessary risk" and "over-cautious" is huge, not thin.
It's the line between "calculated risk" and "not cautious enough" which is thin.

I remember a clanmate of mine who used to lure a lots of beasts, each time she lured, in noids. She said "no problem, I know how many we can handle". OK, that's a calculated risk. But we crossed the "thin line": it turned out the risk was too big, we weren't cautious enough, and we all fell :-D
I don't see the difference between the two sets of words. In both cases, there's the one hand which says one should be cautious and the other hand which says that you should take risks.
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